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Postby Q' lypse » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:50 pm

Thought this would be something to debate about.. Football form, mods, pls allow small wai

"A Botswana man has killed his girlfriend back home. He runs to South Africa, gets caught by the South African police. However, the South African government refuses to deport or extradite him if he's going to be executed in Botswana. Because Botswana advocates the death penalty and South Africa doesn't. They won't hand him over because "it robs the man of his right to life and dignity." :D.
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Postby Q' lypse » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:52 pm

what surprised me more was the quote "he has a right to life and dignity".

:lol: .. Dude murdered his galfrd in cold blood. One ought to ask what about her life? :lol: .. Capital punishment is a really controversial topic ...
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Postby Akokora Gyeene » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:57 pm

Q' lypse wrote:what surprised me more was the quote "he has a right to life and dignity".

:lol: .. Dude murdered his galfrd in cold blood. One ought to ask what about her life? :lol: .. Capital punishment is a really controversial topic ...




If for example you are going to be deported as an illegal immigrant, you can successfully win legal asylum if you can show that being deported back to your home country would result in death or harm to you due to your political or sexual orientation. I only bring this up because even though his crime would result in life in prison, by deporting him, the legal system would be in effect executing him which is against their laws
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Postby Abena Kwabena » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:57 pm

To the debate, it is a real issue. Some Europeans countries will not extradite an accused to US unless they receive promises that the accused will not face the death penalty. I personally believe in life for life.
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Postby Q' lypse » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:19 pm

Akokora Gyeene wrote:
Q' lypse wrote:what surprised me more was the quote "he has a right to life and dignity".

:lol: .. Dude murdered his galfrd in cold blood. One ought to ask what about her life? :lol: .. Capital punishment is a really controversial topic ...




If for example you are going to be deported as an illegal immigrant, you can successfully win legal asylum if you can show that being deported back to your home country would result in death or harm to you due to your political or sexual orientation.
but killing an innocent human being?
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Postby Q' lypse » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:20 pm

Abena Kwabena wrote:Change your heading or just remove the TGIF from it.

To the debate, it is a real issue. Some Europeans countries will not extradite an accused to US unless they receive promises that the accused will not face the death penalty.
This is exactly what the SAn government is saying
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Postby Ozimzim » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:15 pm

Q' lypse wrote:
Abena Kwabena wrote:Change your heading or just remove the TGIF from it.

To the debate, it is a real issue. Some Europeans countries will not extradite an accused to US unless they receive promises that the accused will not face the death penalty.
This is exactly what the SAn government is saying


He must be thankful he didn't run to Nigeria. They'd put a tire around his neck and set him on fire. Justice served!
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Postby rastaman » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:30 pm

Akokora Gyeene wrote:
Q' lypse wrote:what surprised me more was the quote "he has a right to life and dignity".

:lol: .. Dude murdered his galfrd in cold blood. One ought to ask what about her life? :lol: .. Capital punishment is a really controversial topic ...




If for example you are going to be deported as an illegal immigrant, you can successfully win legal asylum if you can show that being deported back to your home country would result in death or harm to you due to your political or sexual orientation. I only bring this up because even though his crime would result in life in prison, by deporting him, the legal system would be in effect executing him which is against their laws
Moron!!!
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Postby Paddyreus » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:41 pm

rastaman wrote:
Akokora Gyeene wrote:
Q' lypse wrote:what surprised me more was the quote "he has a right to life and dignity".

:lol: .. Dude murdered his galfrd in cold blood. One ought to ask what about her life? :lol: .. Capital punishment is a really controversial topic ...




If for example you are going to be deported as an illegal immigrant, you can successfully win legal asylum if you can show that being deported back to your home country would result in death or harm to you due to your political or sexual orientation. I only bring this up because even though his crime would result in life in prison, by deporting him, the legal system would be in effect executing him which is against their laws
Moron!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: RTFLMAO
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Postby Achopere » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:48 pm

Funny legal confusion. The one took away the life of another human being suddenly has a right to life??
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Postby Achopere » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:48 pm

Funny legal confusion. The one took away the life of another human being suddenly has a right to life??
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Postby Obielord » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:29 pm

rastaman wrote:
Akokora Gyeene wrote:
Q' lypse wrote:what surprised me more was the quote "he has a right to life and dignity".

:lol: .. Dude murdered his galfrd in cold blood. One ought to ask what about her life? :lol: .. Capital punishment is a really controversial topic ...




If for example you are going to be deported as an illegal immigrant, you can successfully win legal asylum if you can show that being deported back to your home country would result in death or harm to you due to your political or sexual orientation. I only bring this up because even though his crime would result in life in prison, by deporting him, the legal system would be in effect executing him which is against their laws
Moron!!!


I was really wondering wtf to make to his rant. :oops:
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Postby Obielord » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:30 pm

Achopere wrote:Funny legal confusion. The one took away the life of another human being suddenly has a right to life??


So if you take a life, you become less of a human?

What about the soldiers at war... are they not taking lives?
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Postby B DIDDY » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:41 pm

killing someone brings no justice to anyone...it solves nothing it does not bring back the person who died, and also it does not deter ppl from killing
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Postby kwabotweba » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:58 pm

Obielord wrote:
Achopere wrote:Funny legal confusion. The one took away the life of another human being suddenly has a right to life??


So if you take a life, you become less of a human?

What about the soldiers at war... are they not taking lives?


obie you cant compare the two.. seriously... it is a different case altogether when you are on a battlefield.. unless you want to tell me you will not fight back if some idiot somewhere keeps firing at ur rasta..

but to kill someone for no apparent reason, probably cuz of a lil misunderstanding is never ruight
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Postby buffugee » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:07 pm

Achopere wrote:Funny legal confusion. The one took away the life of another human being suddenly has a right to life??


Here is the premise!

EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO LIFE

under this premise the death penalty is moot!! so regardless of what you have done (including robbing someone of their right to life) you deserve the right to live but not comfortably hence the prison and hard labour principle.
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Postby B DIDDY » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:08 pm

kwabotweba wrote:
Obielord wrote:
Achopere wrote:Funny legal confusion. The one took away the life of another human being suddenly has a right to life??


So if you take a life, you become less of a human?

What about the soldiers at war... are they not taking lives?


obie you cant compare the two.. seriously... it is a different case altogether when you are on a battlefield.. unless you want to tell me you will not fight back if some idiot somewhere keeps firing at ur rasta..

but to kill someone for no apparent reason, probably cuz of a lil misunderstanding is never ruight



abeg and dont we go to war on misunderstandings? and what is worse is most of it aint even your personal misunderstanding
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Postby marvelous stars » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:09 pm

B DIDDY wrote:killing someone brings no justice to anyone...it solves nothing it does not bring back the person who died, and also it does not deter ppl from killing


Yes it does since even heartless killers do not want to be brutally executed, take Saddam and Gadaffi for example. Give and take is the best solution to decrease murder. Any playboy want to hit any cute bunny on sight but don't like their sister being hit on.
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Postby B DIDDY » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:11 pm

marvelous stars wrote:
B DIDDY wrote:killing someone brings no justice to anyone...it solves nothing it does not bring back the person who died, and also it does not deter ppl from killing


Yes it does since even heartless killers do not want to be brutally executed, take Saddam and Gadaffi for example. Give and take is the best solution to decrease murder. Any playboy want to hit any cute bunny on sight but don't like their sister being hit on.


and did killing them make their countries better?
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Postby NaMrecco$ » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:12 pm

he should be terminated too... :arrow: :arrow:
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