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Union Chief - Obama should apologize to the Police

Postby Turbo Turbulance » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:17 pm

President Obama should apologize to members of the Cambridge Police Department for saying they acted stupidly, the president of the city's police union said Friday.


Sgt. Jim Crowley says he is disappointed President Obama opined on the matter without having all the facts.

1 of 3 Dennis O'Connor, president of the Cambridge Police Superior Officers Association, said at a news conference that Obama should not have criticized officers' actions in last week's arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr.

Sgt. James Crowley, the officer who arrested Gates for disorderly conduct, has previously said he was dismayed by the president's remarks and that Obama had offended police in Cambridge and elsewhere.

"I was a little surprised and disappointed that the president, who didn't have all of the facts by his own admission, then weighed in on the events of that night and made a comment that really offended not just officers in the Cambridge Police Department but officers around the country," Crowley told CNN affiliate WHDH-TV in Boston.

Obama, however, stood by his comment, saying he is "surprised by the controversy surrounding" it.

"I think it was a pretty straightforward commentary that you probably don't need to handcuff a guy, a middle-aged man who uses a cane, who's in his own home," Obama told ABC's "Nightline." Watch Crowley's boss defend the arrest »

When Obama waded into the story by answering a question about it during his news conference Wednesday night, he admitted that he "may be a little biased" because Gates is a friend.

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"I don't know all the facts," he also conceded.

He said he did not know what role race played, but "the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home." iReport.com: Arrest sparks debate

Crowley, in the police report about the incident, said Gates refused to cooperate with him and repeatedly accusing him of racism when he went to Gates' home following a report of a possible break-in July 16.

Crowley said he tried to determine whether there was someone else at the home and wanted to ensure Gates' safety.

Gates, however, told him "that I had no idea who I was 'messing' with" and was being so loud that he could not give pertinent information to the department when he was calling in, the sergeant said.

Authorities have said they may release tapes of the officer calling in, in which Gates is heard in the background

Crowley's report said that when he asked to speak with Gates outside, the professor at one point responded, "I'll speak with your mama outside." Watch Crowley's response »

Gates' attorney, Charles Ogletree, said the professor never made such a remark.

The full story will show that Gates did nothing wrong -- and that Crowley did not identify himself at first, Ogletree said.

Gates said Wednesday he would listen to Crowley "if he would tell the truth about what he did, about the distortions that he fabricated in the police report. I would be prepared as a human being to forgive him."

Crowley has said he will not apologize. The police incident report states that Crowley twice provided his name to Gates, who subsequently asked for it two more times.

Gates ultimately was arrested for disorderly conduct, but the department later dropped the charges.

Cambridge police Commissioner Robert Haas said he "deeply regrets" the arrest but stands by the procedures his department followed.

"I trust [Crowley's] judgment implicitly. He is a stellar officer," Haas said.

He added the department is "very proud about its diversity within this community and how hard we've worked over the years to build a strong, solid relationship [between] the department and the community."

Haas said he agreed with Crowley about Obama's remarks.

"I have to tell you the officers take that very personally and basically feel hurt by that comment. We truly are trying to do the best service we can to the community and sometimes we make mistakes. We're human. But we learn from those mistakes and we move on," he said.

Numerous police officers, including African-Americans, have spoken up on Crowley's behalf and portrayed him as a good and fair officer. Crowley, who is white, had once been chosen by a black police officer to teach a police academy course on ways to avoid racial profiling.

Obama said he had heard of Crowley's record, saying, "I don't know all the extenuating circumstances, and as I said, I respect what police officers do. From what I can tell, the sergeant who was involved is an outstanding police officer, but my suspicion is probably it would have been better if cooler heads prevailed."

Gates' legal team argues that authorities are misrepresenting the professor and the officer, and Gates has said he is determined to keep the issue alive despite the charges being dropped.

"This is not about me; this is about the vulnerability of black men in America," he said this week.

Ogletree said Gates might sue the department and would bring forward witnesses who say they've had similar experiences with Crowley.


When asked for examples, Ogletree said only that they may come out in time depending on how the police department handles the situation moving forward.

"I think you will be hearing much more complex and different perspective on him [Crowley] in the coming days and weeks," Ogletree said, alleging that Crowley "is well-known among people, particularly young people, for some of his police practices."
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Postby keen observer » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:20 pm

Apologize for what? Does the chief not understand English? :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby el Padrino » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:21 pm

Turbu, This be TWUM thread #2? :lol: :lol:
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Postby rastaman » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:21 pm

el Padrino wrote:Turbu, This be TWUM thread #2? :lol: :lol:


The guy needs his head examined :shock: :shock:
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Postby Ken'To » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:24 pm

keen observer wrote:Apologize for what? Does the chief not understand English? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Don't mind those idiots Wofa... "nkwasiafour!!!" :lol: If that policeman apologizes, ma hood dog will also do as such... in his dream! "Sias3m!!"
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Postby joekofi12 [Numo Tohba] » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:25 pm

e hard oh. Police chief of Cambridge asking the President to apologize for being right!!! Obviously, the ppl of Cambridge have issues that border on RACE AND IN-EQUALITY!!! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Postby Turbo Turbulance » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:28 pm

el Padrino wrote:Turbu, This be TWUM thread #2? :lol: :lol:


Keep counting, bro.

2 down, 34 more to go. :roll:
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Postby keen observer » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:32 pm

joekofi12 [Numo Tohba] wrote:e hard oh. Police chief of Cambridge asking the President to apologize for being right!!! Obviously, the ppl of Cambridge have issues that border on RACE AND IN-EQUALITY!!! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:


The police were stupid. Some of those who arrested him were black..They were just plain ol' stupid..No common sense exhibited at all.
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Postby Turbo Turbulance » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:33 pm

rastaman wrote:
el Padrino wrote:Turbu, This be TWUM thread #2? :lol: :lol:


The guy needs his head examined :shock: :shock:


After I'm done examining wo maame TWEMU to see whether its vacant tonight !! :roll:
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Postby B DIDDY » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:35 pm

and why hasnt he asked the officers to apologize to the professor
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Postby rastaman » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:38 pm

*Turbulance wrote:
rastaman wrote:
el Padrino wrote:Turbu, This be TWUM thread #2? :lol: :lol:


The guy needs his head examined :shock: :shock:


After I'm done examining wo maame TWEMU to see whether its vacant tonight !! :roll:


Bigot :x :x why are you quoting me :roll: :roll: was your name mentioned :roll: :roll: Man get a life and you are a disgrace to all Kwahu's on this forum :arrow: :arrow:
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Postby Turbo Turbulance » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:42 pm

rastaman wrote:
*Turbulance wrote:
rastaman wrote:
el Padrino wrote:Turbu, This be TWUM thread #2? :lol: :lol:


The guy needs his head examined :shock: :shock:


After I'm done examining wo maame TWEMU to see whether its vacant tonight !! :roll:


Bigot :x :x why are you quoting me :roll: :roll: was your name mentioned :roll: :roll: Man get a life and you are a disgrace to all Kwahu's on this forum :arrow: :arrow:


STFU !!

I'm not your Kwahu boy, APONKYE !!

Kwaseato, if you didn't mention me , who were you talking about ? Your F**king Kwahu father ? :roll:
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Postby rastaman » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:44 pm

*Turbulance wrote:
rastaman wrote:
*Turbulance wrote:
rastaman wrote:
el Padrino wrote:Turbu, This be TWUM thread #2? :lol: :lol:


The guy needs his head examined :shock: :shock:


After I'm done examining wo maame TWEMU to see whether its vacant tonight !! :roll:


Bigot :x :x why are you quoting me :roll: :roll: was your name mentioned :roll: :roll: Man get a life and you are a disgrace to all Kwahu's on this forum :arrow: :arrow:


STFU !!

I'm not your Kwahu boy, APONKYE !!

Kwaseato, if you didn't mention me , who were you talking about ? Your F**king Kwahu father ? :roll:


Naah your f***** kwahu uncle :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Odwan nana
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Postby Obielord » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:46 pm

rastaman wrote:
Naah your f***** kwahu uncle :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Odwan nana


If u don't have anything to do, take ur beautiful wife to lunch or something and stop wasting ur time here!
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Postby Mr. E » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:47 pm

What a shameless twat! He no dey shy sef.

Who should apologize to who?
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Postby keen observer » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:48 pm

B DIDDY wrote:and why hasnt he asked the officers to apologize to the professor


he says the officers were only doing their job.
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Postby Kwakwe Last Stop » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:55 pm

I am getting incensed at this issue. That Crowley man acted very unprofessionally, but i will not call him a racist.

He had to invite the man unto his front porch to arrest him because he did not have permission to enter the Gates' house neither did he have the powers to arrest him in his own house, why? Because u can only be charged for disorderly conduct in public. So he waits until the man reaches his front porch and arrests him for an act that did not happen in public!!!!!

Here is a man who is neatly dressed, has identified himself as the owner of the house and uses a cane. What more did this retard of a popo want???
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Postby keen observer » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:58 pm

Kwakwe Last Stop wrote:I am getting incensed at this issue. That Crowley man acted very unprofessionally, but i will not call him a racist.

He had to invite the man unto his front porch to arrest him because he did not have permission to enter the Gates' house neither did he have the powers to arrest him in his own house, why? Because u can only be charged for disorderly conduct in public. So he waits until the man reaches his front porch and arrests him for an act that did not happen in public!!!!!

Here is a man who is neatly dressed, has identified himself as the owner of the house and uses a cane. What more did this retard of a popo want???


Some people just do not have common sense. Period.
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stupid police

Postby darius99 » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:03 pm

Mr. E wrote:What a shameless twat! He no dey shy sef.

Who should apologize to who?


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the guy is an idiot to expect the president to apologize. to hell with him and their racism.
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Postby Turbo Turbulance » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:03 pm

rastaman wrote:
*Turbulance wrote:
rastaman wrote:
*Turbulance wrote:
rastaman wrote:
el Padrino wrote:Turbu, This be TWUM thread #2? :lol: :lol:


The guy needs his head examined :shock: :shock:


After I'm done examining wo maame TWEMU to see whether its vacant tonight !! :roll:


Bigot :x :x why are you quoting me :roll: :roll: was your name mentioned :roll: :roll: Man get a life and you are a disgrace to all Kwahu's on this forum :arrow: :arrow:


STFU !!

I'm not your Kwahu boy, APONKYE !!

Kwaseato, if you didn't mention me , who were you talking about ? Your F**king Kwahu father ? :roll:


Naah your f***** kwahu uncle :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: Odwan nana


Dude, I don't have an uncle so don't be stupid.

Wo papa kwaseano na m3 bo na sum ama no. :roll: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
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