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HMMM...RAWLLINGS SNUBS GREEDY BASTARDS AND NAADU AT FUNERAL

Postby Defender » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:32 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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MATTERS ARISING.... :? :? :oops: :oops: :oops: Where is the Asomdwee? :?
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Postby Dr Vyrus » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:08 pm

This was not a snub per Akan tradition you do not great a widower when she has a flower in her hands.
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Postby Uncle Ato » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:20 pm

Dr Vyrus wrote:This was not a snub per Akan tradition you do not great a widower when she has a flower in her hands.


Rawlings is not an Akan; Naadu is not an Akan. So alluding to Akan custom is not applicable. I suggest you try studying a bit about Ga or Ewe funeral customs too. Maybe your cultural horizons might be two additional customs broadened.
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Postby Dr Vyrus » Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:02 pm

Uncle Ato wrote:
Dr Vyrus wrote:This was not a snub per Akan tradition you do not greet a widower when she has a flower in her hands.


Rawlings is not an Akan; Naadu is not an Akan. So alluding to Akan custom is not applicable. I suggest you try studying a bit about Ga or Ewe funeral customs too. Maybe your cultural horizons might be two additional customs broadened.
If you followed the funeral you would have seen that the man who was dead was an Akan hence the funeral followed akan customs. and please I know more anout Ga and Ewe customs that you so do not go there. I suggest you learn our culture in general as your horizon seem to be very limited. The reason why the widower carried a flower in the Akan custom is for mourners to be able to identify her so as not to greet her. Rawlings being well schooled in traditions and norms across the country knew this. He did the right thing by nodding to her as custom demands.
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Postby paabo » Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:20 pm

Dr Vyrus wrote:This was not a snub per Akan tradition you do not great a widower when she has a flower in her hands.


Didn't look like a snub to me...more like an unavailable opportunity since the widow was deeply engaged in a convo with ET Mensah and Jerry already had his eyes set on Mahama. He was already moving and I'm sure iT could have seen as rude if he had broken his stride AND halted the lady's conversation with ET.
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Postby Uncle Ato » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:01 pm

Dr Vyrus wrote:
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Dr Vyrus wrote:This was not a snub per Akan tradition you do not greet a widower when she has a flower in her hands.


Rawlings is not an Akan; Naadu is not an Akan. So alluding to Akan custom is not applicable. I suggest you try studying a bit about Ga or Ewe funeral customs too. Maybe your cultural horizons might be two additional customs broadened.
If you followed the funeral you would have seen that the man who was dead was an Akan hence the funeral followed akan customs. and please I know more anout Ga and Ewe customs that you so do not go there. I suggest you learn our culture in general as your horizon seem to be very limited. The reason why the widower carried a flower in the Akan custom is for mourners to be able to identify her so as not to greet her. Rawlings being well schooled in traditions and norms across the country knew this. He did the right thing by nodding to her as custom demands.


i refer you to read a bit on the issue you raised with respect to Ga and Ewe customs also. I didn't raise issues about Akan customs. Ghana is multi-ethnic as you know so alluding to practices in one custom does not necessarily preclude what might obtain in others. As for knowing more about custom than me, "one who hasn't been to another man's farm, always says his farm is the largest."
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Postby Dr Vyrus » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:24 pm

Uncle Ato you are missing the point. I pointed it out to defender that Rawlings was not snubbing Naadu by not greeting her as it was against the Akan tradition to do so. You said neither Naadu nor Rawlings is Akan so I should learn other cultures to broaden my horizon. All I'm trying to tell you is that you do not go to an Ewe man's funeral to practice your Ga culture. Rawlings was doing in Rome what the Romans do so you cannot criticize him for that.

I know people wants to criticize Rawlings so bad that they are actually over looking that fact that he ignored state protocol by walking up there when the announcer had clearly called the president of the republic to do so
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Postby Defender » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:55 pm

Dr Vyrus wrote:This was not a snub per Akan tradition you do not great a widower when she has a flower in her hands.



For Naadu Mills, you got a point there Dr V, But the greedy bastards... he snubbed them :idea: :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Uncle Ato » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:58 pm

Dr Vyrus wrote:Uncle Ato you are missing the point. I pointed it out to defender that Rawlings was not snubbing Naadu by not greeting her as it was against the Akan tradition to do so. You said neither Naadu nor Rawlings is Akan so I should learn other cultures to broaden my horizon. All I'm trying to tell you is that you do not go to an Ewe man's funeral to practice your Ga culture. Rawlings was doing in Rome what the Romans do so you cannot criticize him for that.

I know people wants to criticize Rawlings so bad that they are actually over looking that fact that he ignored state protocol by walking up there when the announcer had clearly called the president of the republic to do so


I think you are off on a number of points. But for one, this was for the most part military funeral. Be kind enough to point to me the Akan part (hand shaking?) of the funeral. About going to Ewe funeral and practicing Ga culture, what if what the Ewes did was the same as what the Ga did. Will you say the Ga was practicing Ewe culture or Ga culture. The part about culture in this specific setting/scene is that what happened obtains in both Ga and Ewe customs and also in Akan, so you say he was practicing Akan custom is actually he was practicing his custom(which said custom exits in the others). On a related analogy with a lighter note, when a Dutch says "boss", is he speaking Dutch or English? When an Arab say "alcohol", is he speaking arabic or english? Hope these help.
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Postby paabo » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:35 pm

Hmmm Vyrus, I'm finding it hard to buy into your Akan interpretation of what we are all seeing on the clip...but I guess a defence is still a defence and only Jerry knows. I don't believe the spin put out here by Defender that he was shunning the widow and his perceived GBs....Jerry is too mature for such silliness :!:
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Postby Defender » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:53 pm

paabo wrote:Hmmm Vyrus, I'm finding it hard to buy into your Akan interpretation of what we are all seeing on the clip...but I guess a defence is still a defence and only Jerry knows. I don't believe the spin put out here by Defender that he was shunning the widow and his perceived GBs....Jerry is too mature for such silliness :!:


Rubbish! What spin are you talking about? You think I am like you. Look Asampana, I don't spin. I say things as I see them. I am not a hypocrite like you. Gellayway from my face and allow me to mourn my Uncle

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Postby Dr Vyrus » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:12 pm

paabo wrote:Hmmm Vyrus, I'm finding it hard to buy into your Akan interpretation of what we are all seeing on the clip...but I guess a defence is still a defence and only Jerry knows. I don't believe the spin put out here by Defender that he was shunning the widow and his perceived GBs....Jerry is too mature for such silliness :!:
you know I will be the last to put up a defence for Rawlings but itis what it is. He acknowleaged her with a nod and that is what custom demands
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Postby paabo » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:20 pm

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paabo wrote:Hmmm Vyrus, I'm finding it hard to buy into your Akan interpretation of what we are all seeing on the clip...but I guess a defence is still a defence and only Jerry knows. I don't believe the spin put out here by Defender that he was shunning the widow and his perceived GBs....Jerry is too mature for such silliness :!:


Rubbish! What spin are you talking about? You think I am like you. Look Asampana, I don't spin. I say things as I see them. I am not a hypocrite like you. Gellayway from my face and allow me to mourn my Uncle

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You're happy with your conduct on the forum? :shock:
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Postby Defender » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:20 pm

paabo wrote:
Defender wrote:
paabo wrote:Hmmm Vyrus, I'm finding it hard to buy into your Akan interpretation of what we are all seeing on the clip...but I guess a defence is still a defence and only Jerry knows. I don't believe the spin put out here by Defender that he was shunning the widow and his perceived GBs....Jerry is too mature for such silliness :!:


Rubbish! What spin are you talking about? You think I am like you. Look Asampana, I don't spin. I say things as I see them. I am not a hypocrite like you. Gellayway from my face and allow me to mourn my Uncle

:roll: :roll: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:


You're happy with your conduct on the forum? :shock:



What conduct? People like you hates the truth. Hypocrite, what about you? are you happy about your lies and hypocrisy here? :?: :roll: :roll: :roll: :arrow: :arrow:
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Postby Defender » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:31 pm

Rawlings Breaks Loose

Former president and founder of the National Democratic Congress (NDC), Jerry John Rawlings, yesterday carved a role for himself at the interment of the late President John Evans Atta Mills even though he was ignored in the scheme of things, as regards the programme.

For those who were privileged to be close to the graveside rituals, they could not avoid the subtle show of defiance put up by former President Rawlings when he proceeded to pay his last respects to the man who served as vice president under him and eventually became president, ignoring protocol as it were.


At the end of the graveside rituals when the body had been lowered into the grave and the departure procedure announced, Mr Rawlings broke protocol, ignoring everybody to pay his last respects to the departing president.

In his tribute in which he recalled his early engagement with the man he fondly called Prof, former President Rawlings had this to say: “My earliest memory of John Evans Atta Mills was as a sportsman at Achimota School.

Though Prof, as I preferred to call him, served in several institutional capacities during my tenure as Head of State, close contact was renewed when he was nominated and subsequently confirmed as Vice-President when the NDC won the December 1996 Presidential elections.”

Perhaps, it was this relationship with the man he was perceived to be unduly querying over his governance style which prompted him to ignore those who did not deem it necessary to include him in the programme to carve a role for himself.

When the casket was brought in by the pall bearers, the dignitaries including President John Mahama and his spouse, the widow Ernestina Naadu Mills and Service Commanders had taken their positions awaiting the last segment of burial proceedings to commence. Former President Rawlings was not present at the time.

He appeared unexpectedly with his spokesperson Kofi Adam and with a gesticulation, he appeared to be beckoning somebody to come over in a gesture of defiance as if saying, “Let us go and pay our last respects whether they include me in the programme or not”.

He then proceeded to take a position behind other personalities until the end of the proceedings when the MC announced that all had come to an end.

The MC proceeded to detail the order of departure, pointing out that all should remain still as the president and his spouse took leave, followed by the vice president and his spouse, former first lady Naadu Mills and lastly former President Rawlings.

At this stage, former President Rawlings stepped out with his bodyguard- that was the moment he had waited for.

He walked towards President John Mahama, ignoring E.T. Mensah and Madam Naadu Mills as the dignitaries and others held their breaths and wondered what was up to.

He extended a hand to President John Mahama, shook hands with him and proceeded with the next stage of his enactments.

He turned and headed for the grave, halted and bowed in a gesture of respect and departed almost immediately after that enactment.

The departure arrangement could not go on at this time, as all stood and watched former President Rawlings execute his own programme.

When he took leave of the place, President John Mahama, the former first lady and President Mills’ son Samuel Kofi Mills moved to the graveside where the widow dropped a flower into the grave, by which time former President Rawlings had left the scene.

People who wondered why former President Rawlings did not shake hands with the late President Mills’ wife were reminded that it was a breach of tradition to shake the hands of a widow. Many have taken note of a number of traditional breaches in funerals as in the case of Madam Naadu appearing at the graveside and even adorning herself with earrings.

Another segment of former President Rawlings’ tribute which underscores his oft-made remarks about those who stood against him runs thus: “Against strong opposition from some within the party, I stood by the Prof and gave him full support after the electoral misfortunes of 2000 and 2004.


“A lot has passed under the bridge since the hard fought electoral victory of 2008. While many may perceive my criticism of the Prof as ill conceived, I was not going to look away while a man with such great potential was led astray from the ideals that we fought for; from the ideals that the NDC stood for.

We waged a stout political campaign in 2008 and those who really cared for the Prof deserved to speak the truth to help him succeed as President. My final meeting with Prof before he passed away was on Thursday 5th July at the Castle.

“During our meeting we expressed our mutual respect for each other as was always the case and news of his departure on July 24 came with cold pain”.

Story from peacefmonline.com News:
http://elections.peacefmonline.com/poli ... 128689.php
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Postby Kyky » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:49 pm

Is everyone forgetting the fact that Naadu disrespected her late husband by attending his funeral in jewelry ? Some body should have told her it is never done that okunafo should appear at the burial site during the ceremony.
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Postby dopestyzo » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:55 pm

As others have stated, its Akan Tradition. its uncomfortable for thousands to shake her hands all day.
The interesting thing is, it doesn't apply to anybody else. he could've shake others around her. Even the second guy extended his hand and Jerry pulled back. Something dey....
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Postby kuro be so Hene » Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:38 am

Looks like he snubbed three or four of them. And there was no eye contact either. Which part of Akan tradition 101 is this :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh and that back ground music is a stroke of genius :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Defender » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:13 am

Kyky wrote:Is everyone forgetting the fact that Naadu disrespected her late husband by attending his funeral in jewelry ? Some body should have told her it is never done that okunafo should appear at the burial site during the ceremony.


:idea: :idea: You got a very good point Kyky. I observed that too. SMH. you wait for the NDC trolls here (Paabo, VRMAN, Double Double, and Dr Tribalist Luv) show their ugly head here to insult you for pointing this out :idea: :oops:

Very disrespectful for a widow to wear jewellery. My guess is Naadu did not even care about her husband. Why was she living separately from her sick husband? isn't it suppose to be for better or worst? :? :oops: :oops: :(
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Postby Defender » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:17 am

dopestyzo wrote:As others have stated, its Akan Tradition. its uncomfortable for thousands to shake her hands all day.
The interesting thing is, it doesn't apply to anybody else. he could've shake others around her. Even the second guy extended his hand and Jerry pulled back. Something dey....


:idea: :lol: :lol: Something big dey my brother... JJ has never shy away from his hatred for those greedy bastards Mills surrounded himself with. They were the cause of his failure as a president. ATTA MILLS WAS A GOOD PERSON BUT A BAD LEADER. PEOPLE AROUND HIM FAILED HIM TERRIBLY :idea:
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