WHY ARE WE ALL AFRAID OF DEATH..?

[maradona]

Q think really hard about what is happening here. I think the kids dad is a pastor at some church. if you start paying attention to his story he is pretty much describing the believes of his dad church and exactly how the europeans want us to believe what jesus look like( he describe jesus as blue eye blond hair in one of the youtube video). so my question is why does it always have to be something that they believe for example why didnt he see mohammed or the other millions of gods and messiahs that we use to worship. if he was a muslim the story will be diferent, if he was chinese the story would be different.

I would be more impress if he saw mohammed because thats far from many christians thought and they never ever imagine him being in heaven or anywhere. i hope you know what im trying to say.

i think the family is just using it for their financial gain, they have written a book about it and I am sure they have made more money than they ever imagine, this is what the american dream is all about deceiving people and making as much money as you can even if it will hurt the victim in the long run.

then again i dont know the kid might be right and there is really heaven and hell.

This is exactly what I was expecting you to say. I'm glad you made that observation. They have a Christian background. Trust me, there are many accounts of other Christians who have had near death experiences seeing what they believe in their religion, heaven, hell, Jesus, angels, white robs, choir etc. I don't doubt the boy's account at all but the religion of his parents is deep inside him even at that young age that, in a near death experience, he gets to see all what he's been taught in Sunday school.

Why don't you explore a little? There are Muslim accounts of near death experiences, there are Buddhists, there are those who embraced all religions experiences, there are those who are not religious at all, like the actress, Sharon Stone's account of NDE. No funny religious figures in it, nothing like that. This is why I asked why you don't wanna hear about others accounts of NDE.

i have seen some nde. most of them see some bright light and and a sense of peace. but does it answer where we go when we die.? i dont think it answer the question at all maybe it gives some clues but definitely doesn't answer it. some people here are saying that people never die cuz they come right back or something. but does it matter if we come back without remembering what we did in our last life. we might as well call it death anyway.


who will get into an airplane without knowing where it is going to land.? thas how death is like to most people, they dont take the risk cuz they dont know where it is going.

this is just my opinion.

[Q' lypse]

:shock:

u started a fire

I swear!

I never even explained my main point..

Besides where dey ur alter EGOs; Mt Zion, Zion, Justin White?

Who knows. But there are two people to ask, Abena Janet and Ksarp.

zion be ur altered ego?????? eiii things dey lungulungu for this world paa

i know im crazy but massa meebodam saa wai(im not that nuts). Zion is on another level, abeg, kai!

Eerrmm semi correction, I dont think its Ksarp, its El I think, he mentioned once he used to email him about the stock market or something like that, it could be both of them. Ah, but Zion is fond of Abena, we all know dis .

[Kwame Nyame 64]

Maradona wrote,
i have seen some nde. most of them see some bright light and and a sense of peace. but does it answer where we go when we die.? i dont think it answer the question at all maybe it gives some clues but definitely doesn't answer it. some people here are saying that people never die cuz they come right back or something. but does it matter if we come back without remembering what we did in our last life. we might as well call it death anyway.


who will get into an airplane without knowing where it is going to land.? thas how death is like to most people, they dont take the risk cuz they dont know where it is going.

this is just my opinion.

When we seek explanation,the questioning will continue.There is nothing wrong in seeking explanation.there is nothing wrong in gathering knowledge.Most often it is a good start.lt is clever and sensible to ask questions and look at a subject matter from different directions.
So with death and the fear of death,you read.You debate.You ask questions.You watch programmes on the subject.
These are all good.
But if you truely want to overcome the fear of death,you have to do more than asking,reading and watching programmes.You have to look for experience and realization.
You have to look for practical ways.
lm not saying eg to drown by jumping into the deep ocean to experience death.lm talking about finding ways of seperating the spiritual consciousness from the human consciousness.
This is nothing new.
Socrates said in PHAEDO,a philosopher's purpose is to achieve the seperation of the Soul as much as possible from the human body.
Death on earth is the final seperation of the the spiritual body(Soul) from the human body(flesh).
For those who by way of karma and reincarnation have to return to earth will go through this process again and again.
NDE is a glimpse at this process.
There are spiritual techniques taught by adepts throughout the ages to experience this seperation while still in the physical body.
Socrates was killed for teaching the people in his time about learning to die before death.
The authorities didn't like this.They knew it is difficult to control any person who has lost the fear of death.
Fear of death is one of the major reasons why people fail in life.Fear of death is also one of the tools used in control and suppression.
lnfact without fear of death,the lnsurance business will collapse.
How many religions will be in "business" if lts followers lost the fear of death overnight?
Our lives are largely governed by fear.
lf you take a very close look at stories of people who have experience NDE,a common thread is to do with their outlook on life before and after their experience.
Majority of them go on to live more productive,joyful and free lives.
Why is this?
They have experienced in full or partially that life continues after the demise of the physical body.
Without experiencing this first hand,l doubt if you can go any further other than to just hope and speculate.
Some of us will stay at the stage of hope and speculation all our lives.Others after a belly full of questioning may take a few timid steps to finding out if it is possible at all to take a glimpse beyond the physical veil.
A few though will break out of the pack and masses.They will learn the techniques of out of body experience and while still living in the physical body,explore the inner worlds through dream travel and Soul Projection.
So why do we or some of us fear death?
One is afraid to die when he doesn't understand,or have knowledge of,the continuity of life.
St Paul in the NT said..."l die daily".Basically he was saying that while still in the physical,he had the ability to move beyond the physical body.He called this process dying daily.
What happens when you are able to,while still in the physical body,able to take a look beyond this physical world?
"Here he gains confidence,courage,and becomes acquinted with the other worlds,so that when the time comes,he moves through the transition very smoothly,very naturally.Death loses its sting,the grave loses its victory"
Harold Klemp

Someone may be a skeptic.He believes this is it.Then he experiences NDE.He is no more a skeptic.He now knows there's more to life than meets the eyes.He now knows at death,there is a Master or guardian Angel waiting to help and protect him during the transition.He stop to fear death.He has had a taste.lt haunts him.He is curious.He is now the seeker

The skeptic wld read all this and not make head or tail about it.No amount of answers to his many questions can fully rid him of the fear of death.
l must say this not always true.There are some skeptics who are not afraid of death.They are resigned to the inevitable.They couldn't care less.Like they say in Ghana,ALL DIE BE DIE.
The reason for this is simple.The guard of the mind is up.Logic and reason are fully in control.
The only time Soul can move out of the physical shell is when the guard of the mind is down.When this happens,Soul can view the body as it lies sleeping or sitting in a chair.
Once this seperation is experience,the grip;fear of death starts to lossen its hold.
People experience this through spiritual techniques.Others gain this through NDE.

[Q' lypse]

Q,the talking,reading and listening is good.lt whets your appetite.They are the bankye and kosey the mind needs to chew on.
The baby milk is the doing.lt is taking practical steps to act.You want to experience whatever it is first hand.

Kwame paa, nipa yi muu they just heard about this there is no death thing and now you are talking experience, agyeeeiii..

Why do you think Christ said until you become as children,you shall not exprience the kingdom of heaven?

good point but tell it to those who want to be spoon fed and taking baby steps.

Now back to the topic.
Fear of Death.Some fear death.Others don't fear death.
For those who fear death,some are resigned to fearing death.They want things to remain the way they are.They are not worried about getting rid of the fear of death.They have accepted this fear.
Then there are those who fear death and are looking for ways to get rid of the fear.Some have found solace in religion,philosophy and other humanities.
Some however would want to find out what death is and what lies beyond death.There are persons who wld do anything to find this out.
Death can be compared to the ancients who thought beyond the Rock of Gilbratar was nothingness;dark unknown.
Some of them accepted the known "fact" and didn't bother to worry about what this nothingness was all about.Others sat in the pubs and courts debating the nothingness.Some nutcases took vessels and sailed into the nothingness.
These nutcases didn't just find a whole continent bigger than the land they knew but even found life and civilization.
When we debate Fear of Death,there is room for all.There are those who don't care about the subject.They are those who will talk about it till the cows come home.They are those who would want to hear everything being said about it.
There's a small group who want to know so badly they are prepared to set sail beyond the rock of gilbratar.
We learn to crawl before walking.lt is good to take things step by step.lt is natural to live on fluids before starting on solids.

the world is really diverse and this is why we are here. It is very interesting race

l cannot speak for anyone here.Personally,lm crawling and lm still taking fluids.lm a student.lm curious. l like to take things one step at a time. But l prefer to take a deep than get lectured on the temp of the river.

saa saa, you know thats how some of us are

WHAT WOULD MAKE MARADONA believe without a shadow of a doubt about NDE?

experience i guess but its all up to him though. But does he wanna experience it? Who knows..

Debates,explanations discussion can help.But Maradona will not be asking these questions if he has had NDE himself.
The little contribution l was making is that there are many ways to experience these things without necessarily having a near fatal accident.There are many ways.One way l know is to experience it by practicing a spiritual exercise.
Singing HU is the one l know.

I know oo I know but people are people. U have to give them a break and listen to them, see how they go about approaching such topics, otherwise the mention of eg, HU would sound like Huhuuhu kaakaamotobi (the boogie man) and they will take off, run away. Enti take it slow wai

[maradona]

Maradona wrote,
i have seen some nde. most of them see some bright light and and a sense of peace. but does it answer where we go when we die.? i dont think it answer the question at all maybe it gives some clues but definitely doesn't answer it. some people here are saying that people never die cuz they come right back or something. but does it matter if we come back without remembering what we did in our last life. we might as well call it death anyway.


who will get into an airplane without knowing where it is going to land.? thas how death is like to most people, they dont take the risk cuz they dont know where it is going.

this is just my opinion.

When we seek explanation,the questioning will continue.There is nothing wrong in seeking explanation.there is nothing wrong in gathering knowledge.Most often it is a good start.lt is clever and sensible to ask questions and look at a subject matter from different directions.
So with death and the fear of death,you read.You debate.You ask questions.You watch programmes on the subject.
These are all good.
But if you truely want to overcome the fear of death,you have to do more than asking,reading and watching programmes.You have to look for experience and realization.
You have to look for practical ways.
lm not saying eg to drown by jumping into the deep ocean to experience death.lm talking about finding ways of seperating the spiritual consciousness from the human consciousness.
This is nothing new.
Socrates said in PHAEDO,a philosopher's purpose is to achieve the seperation of the Soul as much as possible from the human body.
Death on earth is the final seperation of the the spiritual body(Soul) from the human body(flesh).
For those who by way of karma and reincarnation have to return to earth will go through this process again and again.
NDE is a glimpse at this process.
There are spiritual techniques taught by adepts throughout the ages to experience this seperation while still in the physical body.
Socrates was killed for teaching the people in his time about learning to die before death.
The authorities didn't like this.They knew it is difficult to control any person who has lost the fear of death.
Fear of death is one of the major reasons why people fail in life.Fear of death is also one of the tools used in control and suppression.
lnfact without fear of death,the lnsurance business will collapse.
How many religions will be in "business" if lts followers lost the fear of death overnight?
Our lives are largely governed by fear.
lf you take a very close look at stories of people who have experience NDE,a common thread is to do with their outlook on life before and after their experience.
Majority of them go on to live more productive,joyful and free lives.
Why is this?
They have experienced in full or partially that life continues after the demise of the physical body.
Without experiencing this first hand,l doubt if you can go any further other than to just hope and speculate.
Some of us will stay at the stage of hope and speculation all our lives.Others after a belly full of questioning may take a few timid steps to finding out if it is possible at all to take a glimpse beyond the physical veil.
A few though will break out of the pack and masses.They will learn the techniques of out of body experience and while still living in the physical body,explore the inner worlds through dream travel and Soul Projection.
So why do we or some of us fear death?
One is afraid to die when he doesn't understand,or have knowledge of,the continuity of life.
St Paul in the NT said..."l die daily".Basically he was saying that while still in the physical,he had the ability to move beyond the physical body.He called this process dying daily.
What happens when you are able to,while still in the physical body,able to take a look beyond this physical world?
"Here he gains confidence,courage,and becomes acquinted with the other worlds,so that when the time comes,he moves through the transition very smoothly,very naturally.Death loses its sting,the grave loses its victory"
Harold Klemp

Someone may be a skeptic.He believes this is it.Then he experiences NDE.He is no more a skeptic.He now knows there's more to life than meets the eyes.He now knows at death,there is a Master or guardian Angel waiting to help and protect him during the transition.He stop to fear death.He has had a taste.lt haunts him.He is curious.He is now the seeker

The skeptic wld read all this and not make head or tail about it.No amount of answers to his many questions can fully rid him of the fear of death.
l must say this not always true.There are some skeptics who are not afraid of death.They are resigned to the inevitable.They couldn't care less.Like they say in Ghana,ALL DIE BE DIE.
The reason for this is simple.The guard of the mind is up.Logic and reason are fully in control.
The only time Soul can move out of the physical shell is when the guard of the mind is down.When this happens,Soul can view the body as it lies sleeping or sitting in a chair.
Once this seperation is experience,the grip;fear of death starts to lossen its hold.
People experience this through spiritual techniques.Others gain this through NDE.

kwame i will like to experience all the spiritual things you and q have been experiencing but the question is how.? singing hu will not help me at all as a matter of fact it will make me more frastrated than i am already. i have been to many churches none of them seem to be my taste, i have some families who are jehovah witnesses but some how i cant seem to be optimistic as them, i have been to the church and everything but nothing help. and recently you are telling me about eck which i see is no different than all the church i have been to.

actually i became very skeptic when a few of my family members decided to force me to believe in their church(jehovah witness). ever since then i decided to doubt many things and do my own research about life but nde and spiritual experience is like chinese to me.

[Janet]

:shock:

u started a fire

I swear!

I never even explained my main point..

Besides where dey ur alter EGOs; Mt Zion, Zion, Justin White?

Who knows. But there are two people to ask, Abena Janet and Ksarp.

zion be ur altered ego?????? eiii things dey lungulungu for this world paa

i know im crazy but massa meebodam saa wai(im not that nuts). Zion is on another level, abeg, kai!

Eerrmm semi correction, I dont think its Ksarp, its El I think, he mentioned once he used to email him about the stock market or something like that, it could be both of them. Ah, but Zion is fond of Abena, we all know dis .

I haven't heard from Zion in ages.

[Kwame Nyame 64]

Maradona wrote,
kwame i will like to experience all the spiritual things you and q have been experiencing but the question is how.? singing hu will not help me at all as a matter of fact it will make me more frastrated than i am already. i have been to many churches none of them seem to be my taste, i have some families who are jehovah witnesses but some how i cant seem to be optimistic as them, i have been to the church and everything but nothing help. and recently you are telling me about eck which i see is no different than all the church i have been to.

actually i became very skeptic when a few of my family members decided to force me to believe in their church(jehovah witness). ever since then i decided to doubt many things and do my own research about life but nde and spiritual experience is like chinese to me.

You have decided to doubt many things.And now you do your own research about life.
Wow! Brilliant.l think this is a very bold and sensible step to take.l agree with you wholeheartedly.
l say this is a bold step because you have decided to embark on personal discovery.
You see,those who run from teacher to teacher;church to church;read books and other forms of literature,go around questioning are simply theorising.lt is all theory.
Not until you begin to PRACTICE AND APPLY things you have found out or learned in your research wld you be making real progress or success.
When you find a truth,you will then be able to say...I KNOW.You were not told.You didn't read about it or watch it on TV.You KNOW. See?
You take an aspect of life and look at it closely.You do your research.lf you find there is some truth in it you keep it.lf not,you can decide to throw it in the waste basket or recycle bin.
You see Maradona,the good thing about doubting many things and doing your own research is that what you find out to be true will be coming from within;from you and not from the outside.What you find will be truth that nobody can take away from you.
The path you have chosen is a very powerful one if l may say so.

[SIEGER]

:shock:

u started a fire

I swear!

I never even explained my main point..

Besides where dey ur alter EGOs; Mt Zion, Zion, Justin White?

Who knows. But there are two people to ask, Abena Janet and Ksarp.

zion be ur altered ego?????? eiii things dey lungulungu for this world paa

i know im crazy but massa meebodam saa wai(im not that nuts). Zion is on another level, abeg, kai!

Eerrmm semi correction, I dont think its Ksarp, its El I think, he mentioned once he used to email him about the stock market or something like that, it could be both of them. Ah, but Zion is fond of Abena, we all know dis .

I haven't heard from Zion in ages.

Why? He dumped U?

( I Kid )

[Janet]

:shock:

u started a fire

I swear!

I never even explained my main point..

Besides where dey ur alter EGOs; Mt Zion, Zion, Justin White?

Who knows. But there are two people to ask, Abena Janet and Ksarp.

zion be ur altered ego?????? eiii things dey lungulungu for this world paa

i know im crazy but massa meebodam saa wai(im not that nuts). Zion is on another level, abeg, kai!

Eerrmm semi correction, I dont think its Ksarp, its El I think, he mentioned once he used to email him about the stock market or something like that, it could be both of them. Ah, but Zion is fond of Abena, we all know dis .

I haven't heard from Zion in ages.

Why? He dumped U?

( I Kid )

No.

[quophi aletse]

:shock:

u started a fire

I swear!

I never even explained my main point..

Besides where dey ur alter EGOs; Mt Zion, Zion, Justin White?

Who knows. But there are two people to ask, Abena Janet and Ksarp.

zion be ur altered ego?????? eiii things dey lungulungu for this world paa

i know im crazy but massa meebodam saa wai(im not that nuts). Zion is on another level, abeg, kai!

Eerrmm semi correction, I dont think its Ksarp, its El I think, he mentioned once he used to email him about the stock market or something like that, it could be both of them. Ah, but Zion is fond of Abena, we all know dis .

I haven't heard from Zion in ages.

Why? He dumped U?

( I Kid )

No.

mutual separation???

[Q' lypse]

i have seen some nde. most of them see some bright light and and a sense of peace. but does it answer where we go when we die.? i dont think it answer the question at all maybe it gives some clues but definitely doesn't answer it. some people here are saying that people never die cuz they come right back or something. but does it matter if we come back without remembering what we did in our last life. we might as well call it death anyway.


who will get into an airplane without knowing where it is going to land.? thas how death is like to most people, they dont take the risk cuz they dont know where it is going.

this is just my opinion.

The real questions here are WHO doesn't know and WHO survives the physical death and feels peace and sees those passed on already?
Have you noticed you just wrote about two different entities right? One which doesn't die and one that dies and is afraid its the end of the road for it. Because the one that doesn't die and is free when the physical body is done has always been and knows it came from somewhere before the birth of the body and it knows it goes back after the body.

There is another thing. Past life and life between lives regression books. That is, accounts of people who go under deep hypnosis under the guidance of an experienced hypnotist/psychologist, who remember a past life, the death of that body, watching themselves float above the dead body, going to where it came from. There, you read whats up. There are many books about this, word for word accounts and recordings of people's experiences.

[Janet]

:shock:

u started a fire

I swear!

I never even explained my main point..

Besides where dey ur alter EGOs; Mt Zion, Zion, Justin White?

Who knows. But there are two people to ask, Abena Janet and Ksarp.

zion be ur altered ego?????? eiii things dey lungulungu for this world paa

i know im crazy but massa meebodam saa wai(im not that nuts). Zion is on another level, abeg, kai!

Eerrmm semi correction, I dont think its Ksarp, its El I think, he mentioned once he used to email him about the stock market or something like that, it could be both of them. Ah, but Zion is fond of Abena, we all know dis .

I haven't heard from Zion in ages.

Why? He dumped U?

( I Kid )

No.

mutual separation???

No. It's nothing like that at all.

[SIEGER]

:shock:

u started a fire

I swear!

I never even explained my main point..

Besides where dey ur alter EGOs; Mt Zion, Zion, Justin White?

Who knows. But there are two people to ask, Abena Janet and Ksarp.

zion be ur altered ego?????? eiii things dey lungulungu for this world paa

i know im crazy but massa meebodam saa wai(im not that nuts). Zion is on another level, abeg, kai!

Eerrmm semi correction, I dont think its Ksarp, its El I think, he mentioned once he used to email him about the stock market or something like that, it could be both of them. Ah, but Zion is fond of Abena, we all know dis .

I haven't heard from Zion in ages.

Why? He dumped U?

( I Kid )

No.

mutual separation???

No. It's nothing like that at all.

Then what is it at all? U know problem shared is ''somehow'' solved..right?

[maradona]

i have seen some nde. most of them see some bright light and and a sense of peace. but does it answer where we go when we die.? i dont think it answer the question at all maybe it gives some clues but definitely doesn't answer it. some people here are saying that people never die cuz they come right back or something. but does it matter if we come back without remembering what we did in our last life. we might as well call it death anyway.


who will get into an airplane without knowing where it is going to land.? thas how death is like to most people, they dont take the risk cuz they dont know where it is going.

this is just my opinion.

The real questions here are WHO doesn't know and WHO survives the physical death and feels peace and sees those passed on already?
Have you noticed you just wrote about two different entities right? One which doesn't die and one that dies and is afraid its the end of the road for it. Because the one that doesn't die and is free when the physical body is done has always been and knows it came from somewhere before the birth of the body and it knows it goes back after the body.

There is another thing. Past life and life between lives regression books. That is, accounts of people who go under deep hypnosis under the guidance of an experienced hypnotist/psychologist, who remember a past life, the death of that body, watching themselves float above the dead body, going to where it came from. There, you read whats up. There are many books about this, word for word accounts and recordings of people's experiences.

wow this is some deep stuff, how did you end up learning about all this body experience stuff. is that the norm in south africa or what, cuz where i live the thinking is completely different.

[Q' lypse]

South Africa is still Africa and you know our people/race are too much into 'praise the lord,' 'praise the lord' Amen Amen'. One ought to be different, one ought to feel there has to be more than this as Kwame would say. This is when one starts looking deep..

Maradona, I will reply later on. There is a lot to talk about..

Now you see we are getting somewhere. Kwame you see, your young bro is trying to tell you to put yourself in other people's shoes and you are ntoatoa. You start small, you don't start jumping into the whole hu hu hu thing, the hu is too huhudious, eehu aakasa.

[quophi aletse]

Then what is it at all? U know problem shared is ''somehow'' solved..right?

eiiii sieger right u are ......

yes janet ...... share what it is all about so that we can somehow solve it quickly

[Kwame Nyame 64]

http://www.spiritualwisdomjournal.org/

[Janet]

Then what is it at all? U know problem shared is ''somehow'' solved..right?

eiiii sieger right u are ......

yes janet ...... share what it is all about so that we can somehow solve it quickly

Problem-sharing forum

[quophi aletse]

Then what is it at all? U know problem shared is ''somehow'' solved..right?

eiiii sieger right u are ......

yes janet ...... share what it is all about so that we can somehow solve it quickly

Problem-sharing forum

eii abena janet .....

[SIEGER]

Then what is it at all? U know problem shared is ''somehow'' solved..right?

eiiii sieger right u are ......

yes janet ...... share what it is all about so that we can somehow solve it quickly

Problem-sharing forum

eii abena janet .....

Janet don vex...